tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post6813100926035458282..comments2024-03-24T20:54:42.846-04:00Comments on Spunk On A Stick's Tips: Finding Support with Bob SanchezL. Diane Wolfehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06425864276166334896noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-32110335197321446442011-06-11T22:56:14.877-04:002011-06-11T22:56:14.877-04:00I wouldn't know what to do without my writers ...I wouldn't know what to do without my writers group. I love 'em.Patricia Stolteyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17192369425956406122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-15619726179748513022011-06-10T18:47:44.893-04:002011-06-10T18:47:44.893-04:00Thanks everyone for visiting! Sorry, your hostess ...Thanks everyone for visiting! Sorry, your hostess was out of town the past two days for a speaking engagement.L. Diane Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06425864276166334896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-43673370982559833802011-06-10T10:26:06.708-04:002011-06-10T10:26:06.708-04:00It's imperative to being able to bounce ideas ...It's imperative to being able to bounce ideas back and forth in order to learn and grow. Reading other writers is a necessity and educational discourse helps round us out as we are able to get answers to the questions we may have and help other with the knowledge that is our strength. Good tips, Bob. I'll have to check out the Internet Writing Workshop.<br /><br /><br />Lee<br /><a href="http://tossingitout.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tossing It Out</a>Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-22296780947711306582011-06-09T22:49:18.802-04:002011-06-09T22:49:18.802-04:00Hi Bob! I'm enjoying Little Mountain so far. (...Hi Bob! I'm enjoying Little Mountain so far. (Won it for leaving a comment on Stephen Tremp's blog for the blog tour!) <br />Thanks for some valuable tips re not reading your first draft, filtering out annoying people's comments. Great idea!<br />I used to belong to two crit groups, one every other Monday, and the other group every other Saturday. Now I only attend the Sat. group, and we've been together 7 years. We know each other well enough to be honest, but the atta-boys are always rewarded. We're a little easier on newbies. They can only absorb so much at a time, and they need to adjust to being out of their comfort zones. We've had a few people who just didn't fit in. One person couldn't handle edgy stuff and was easily offended. She wanted to go to another table (we meet in restaurants) while that offensive piece was read, but we decided it was best that she find another group Too awkward. Others that didn't fit in seemed to pick up on the bad vibes and quit coming. <br />I've learned so much over the years by listening to everyone's critiques and giving my own input. The support system is fantastic.LynNerdKelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04167392990015741278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-46140008480516586632011-06-09T21:04:11.275-04:002011-06-09T21:04:11.275-04:00Nice to meet you, Bob. I was a member of FF&P ...Nice to meet you, Bob. I was a member of FF&P Crit Loop. Now, I have a few critique partners that I switch off with. It's so important to find crit partners in this process. Thanks for sharing.Ciarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15628488753277495111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-83413412173520861022011-06-09T21:02:58.418-04:002011-06-09T21:02:58.418-04:00Thanks for the tip on the Internet Writing Worksho...Thanks for the tip on the Internet Writing Workshop - I'll have to check that out.Susan Fieldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02433408456603462774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-15164816657745080282011-06-09T20:45:08.847-04:002011-06-09T20:45:08.847-04:00I mentioned the Internet Writing Workshop but forg...I mentioned the Internet Writing Workshop but forgot to give you the address. It's http://internetwritingworkshop.org.Bob Sanchezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08350825385315155962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-68348826805394041982011-06-09T20:41:32.577-04:002011-06-09T20:41:32.577-04:00An in-person crit group can be fine, but again the...An in-person crit group can be fine, but again the chemistry has to be there. If you have people who are selfish or bossy or just not helpful, then it's probably not a good group for you. Also, of course, they take time to get to, have to fit into your schedule, and so on. So if an online group suits your needs, it can be perfect. A few years ago in an online group, I found one person's posts annoying, so while I stayed with the group, I just filtered out all of her emails. So you can take control.Bob Sanchezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08350825385315155962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-73580491670854377122011-06-09T20:20:01.377-04:002011-06-09T20:20:01.377-04:00I have great online crit buddies, but I haven'...I have great online crit buddies, but I haven't been brave enough to look for a crit group in the 'real' world. :)Jemi Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02214408467456320167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-77072779768215621622011-06-09T17:20:41.081-04:002011-06-09T17:20:41.081-04:00Thanks for the post. I have yet to join any such g...Thanks for the post. I have yet to join any such group. I did use my family and friends for feedback on the first book. Maybe I should look for a writers group for my next book. Best wishes for Little Mountain!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-27136663888177162952011-06-09T17:09:01.090-04:002011-06-09T17:09:01.090-04:00Thanks, Diane, for introducing us to Bob! Thanks t...Thanks, Diane, for introducing us to Bob! Thanks too, for the great links. Will check them out! :)Karen Langehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18177923284595298347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-52990296102334579812011-06-09T15:32:03.131-04:002011-06-09T15:32:03.131-04:00Hi, Bob,
I'm a believer in writers having a ...Hi, Bob, <br /><br />I'm a believer in writers having a support system. Where I live, I don't know many writers. I've been lucky to find like minds on the internet and know I've been published because of the support and knowledge I've gained by being part of writing groups. I never underestimate the value of different sets of eyes and minds.J.L. Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666634455836834179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-60039383171172183822011-06-09T11:41:15.080-04:002011-06-09T11:41:15.080-04:00Yes, attaboys and attagirls are important, but the...Yes, attaboys and attagirls are important, but they are of no help without constructive criticism. In fact, if all you ever hear is how good your work is, people are doing you no favors. A good friend critiqued one of my novels and wrote next to a poorly-done passage: "This needs some TLC." He was very tactful, but I got the message.<br /><br />Madeline, I am not sure that anyone but you should read your first draft. Even for the early drafts, be sure they are as good as you know how to make them. Otherwise, people are going to waste their time commenting on things you already know.<br /><br />Do check out the Internet Writing Workshop. It's well-run, constructive, and flame-free.Bob Sanchezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08350825385315155962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-62647800827216794202011-06-09T11:05:57.035-04:002011-06-09T11:05:57.035-04:00Awesome post, Bob's writing group sounds absol...Awesome post, Bob's writing group sounds absolutely amazing! I'm trying to get up the guts to go find an online critique group, but I have a lot of worries on whether or not people should read my first drafts. (It would be embarrassing, but they could help me straight from the beginning.) Thanks for sharing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-82714042395294270582011-06-09T10:47:51.052-04:002011-06-09T10:47:51.052-04:00I really enjoyed reading this. I guess we all need...I really enjoyed reading this. I guess we all need attaboys/attagirls to keep us going. But I agree, interaction shows us different parts of the story.notesfromnadirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09904500676081267972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-44510985490093921822011-06-09T09:55:12.410-04:002011-06-09T09:55:12.410-04:00I have two test readers and I bounce ideas off the...I have two test readers and I bounce ideas off them. They let me know if something sounds stupid. Now I also have three awesome online critique partners and they've made a big difference.Alex J. Cavanaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770065693345181702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-2203998227877152302011-06-09T09:51:13.776-04:002011-06-09T09:51:13.776-04:00Diane, thanks for hosting me today. Good morning, ...Diane, thanks for hosting me today. Good morning, Yvonne and Ginger! After a strong dose or two of caffeine dissolves my cobwebs (won't take all that long), I'll check back in.Bob Sanchezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08350825385315155962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-75333435889175063532011-06-09T07:56:39.210-04:002011-06-09T07:56:39.210-04:00Hi Bob. I've been in a number of critique grou...Hi Bob. I've been in a number of critique groups over the years. My only advice is if you're in a group where someone is constantly criticizing without offering support and an attaboy once in a while, either boot him from the group or boot yourself. It's important to think of these groups as not just a critique group but a support group.<br /><br />Thanks for the link to the Internet Writing Workshop. This is the first I've heard of them.Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11634512.post-85253969789065617332011-06-09T06:05:38.109-04:002011-06-09T06:05:38.109-04:00Excellent post, thanks for sharing, most interesti...Excellent post, thanks for sharing, most interesting to read.<br /><br />Yvonne.RHYTHM AND RHYMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11386975261804630799noreply@blogger.com